I personally do not want to answer because it's just a habit but if they did catch me off-guard, I would probably give them an answer of some sort (like I am a boyfriend who is watching my girlfriend's house while she's away with the peace corps for six months and that I already answered the census for my home a few blocks away). Opponents of the American Community Survey disagree with the court's findings about its constitutionality. The ACS, sent annually in recent years to a sampling of more than 3 million U.S. households, collects detailed information on population and housing, helping to update the information gathered in. I received by first survey in early December and a second one just three weeks later. What we have here is a violation of HIPAA. The Legal Accountability Project is a nonprofit aimed at ensuring that as many law . Thus, if they want a specific task force to track illegals and tax invading americans, then so be it. That didn't go over to well and he told me that I was refusing to comply with a government agency and wouldn't get my money back. Waiting for the calls, then the visits. [25] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Sex.pdf. It seems when the phone number is given, that is when the harassment starts. I also refused the deputy entrance for the purpose of a census and said that I wished them both to leave as I would not comply. I made the mistake of answering some questions, thinking it was a one time thing. And I say that is the point -- I do not want my state or city dependent on big government this is socialism and pork barrel out of control government spending. I threw it away. But it did. We need to ban together and not cave in on this. What is the ACS (American Community Survey)? You fill it out and keep it moving- we don't want to. Fact Sheet Aug 25, 2021 Fact Sheet: Protecting and Advancing Health Care for Transgender Adult Communities New data and analysis reveal important health disparities and barriers to care for. Years ago someone told me that the information can be used in a book (that may or may not be in your library) that is published showing where you work, how long you lived at your residence, etc. But at the same time, phones are not supposed to be tapped. They have no authority to uphold the ACS laws and they WON'T take action b/c they KNOW if this survey got out in the media it would be eliminated by public outcry. [3] U.S. Constitution, Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3. Lock and Load. So why would the government hire a company such as ACS to dig into our lives? so i would be prepared. [33] Gardner Selby, Americans Must Answer U.S. Census Bureau Survey by Law, Though Agency Hasn't Prosecuted since 1970, Politifact, http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2014/jan/09/us-census-bureau/americans-must-answer-us-census-bureau-survey-law-/. A week later, a woman came to my door and said they hadn't received my form. Thank you to this site and to all those who have posted comments about the survey. [19] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/EducationalAttainment.pdf. I told him that on the advice of my attorney I had shredded the form. The last person who called our home sounded like he was contracted through India? I can not believe this is United States, land of freedom and liberty. And finally, to the person who looked up the Census rep's name then mentioned her husband had called and wanted her to stop at the store so she looked at him in shock? Person 33. I heard I had to answer the questions or face a possible fine of $5000.00 so I answered the questions. We haven't been bothered since. Our surveys provide periodic and comprehensive statistics about the nation. I told her it would be easier for all of us if she did so. The state police will show up and *escort* them off your property. It's sent out to about 3.5 million households. Read our Newswire Disclaimer. My son answered the door, the guy announced who he was with. So he then left. Think anyone is going to get approval to send out US Marshals to issue tickets? Thus, they cannot use the census as the pretext for the ACS. Next, they sent a real ***** who first harassed my child after being told that I was out of town (I was), then tried to enter our residence (my son was sitting there watching as the doorknob turned). The census collectors or enumerators can ask for some sensitive and detailed information, such as salary or income. Q: What are my options for objecting to the ACS survey as an intrusion on my Fourth Amendment rights? "Isn't that enough?" That's a load of crap. Now I have people pestering my doorman for my information, pretending to be food deliverymen claiming that I ordered food - just so they can come up to my apartment --wow. Subscribe to GovDelivery email updates to stay up-to-date on the latest news and events about the American Community Survey. City Manager; Commissioner of the Revenue The small, everyday, humdrum, quietly approved bills they do each day are where the danger lies and more attention should be paid to those. Anyone who took the time to actually read the ACS and understand how sensitive this information is and how unsecured it actually is would join in the outrage and demand that it be given its proper burial in the grave of horrible bureaucratic policy. If they harass you with phone calls change your number before they do the census and keep it unlisted. I told them I was not responding, and as I shut the door and walked away she stood on the porch and rang the bell, and since then it's all gone down hill. They have nothing but their own agenda in mind and any semblance of control we think we have is just that -- a semblance. So this is where all of your Constitution quotes mess up. I am absolutely livid right now. There is an actual law on the books, but that law has never been applied. You will not be fined. They can send me the 2010 census with their 10 questions that I am required to answer and I will. They're people just like you are, Americans just like you are. lets hope this isn't all to simply mark people who do and do not comply. You wouldn't be getting personal visits and/or phone calls from these Census workers right now. State citizens can help in this process by refusing to cooperate with federal demands (all of them). we need to stop fighting and come together, reminiscent of the black panthers and Raymond Washington. A truly honest, upright government does not hire goons and bullies to do any work for them. When they ask for race, that's what gets me. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct., The power to make laws concerning the Census is restricted to the actual enumeration.. The yahoos on the Hill will continue to usurp our rights. (Same woman who was no longer employed with the census). I was going to fill it out and check "race: other, American" but now I just don't even want to fill the dang thing out. . The ACS replaced the old census long form and the questions have absolutely nothing to with apportioning direct taxes or determining the number of representatives in the House of Representatives. When they arrive on your property, order them off your property. Keep being sheep. do i have right to due process? Well they stopped today. He used to work for the gas company and has been in my house to light my pilot lights. Came back the very next day, and told my husband that he has full authority to open it and if we don't comply then we will be fined anywhere from $100-5000, and the marshal would be accompanying him tomorrow to arrest my husband if we don't comply. He asked me about a census employee who visited my home the prior week. So glad I found this site. So I received two ACS forms in the mail and they are not going to be filled out. The info tells them how many live in a certain area. America Counts: Stories Behind the Numbers. The Rutherford Institute has developed a form letter that you may use in standing up against the governments attempt to force you to disclose personal information. We are law abiding, tax paying citizens and always do the right thing. Any discrepancies, intentional or not, could result in an IRS audit of your returns. They just look at you and say "Oh" and then walk away. That didn't stop the harassment, visits leaving notes while I was at work, or conversations asking my neighbors questions about me like I was some criminal or something. My 89 year old mother was scared out of her wits after answering some questions, thinking she gave too much information and didn't even know who they were. I told her I wasn't interested. It ridiculously says that the form is to help know where to put roads, schools, etc. Are you willing to roll the dice that this information will remain protected? I filled out my census. And, further, we cannot wire tap calls coming into this country from suspected terrorists, but we can create bogus laws to try to make us fill out the ACS which provides more personal information than any wire tap could on american citizens. Daily calls (five or six) two invasive questionnaires mailed, and now intimidating and threatening phone calls. Thank you for your interest in the age, racial composition, daily habits, and private information regarding the private lives and private property of the members of my household. 12286: Don't worry, and don't respond. The two plaintiffs contest that unlike the 10-year Census, the American Community Survey is posed to a sample of a few million households each year, and those who refuse to answer the questionnaire are subject to fines of up to $5,000 per question. The case contends that the federal Census Bureau lacks the statutory and constitutional authority to force the plaintiffs and proposedclass membersto answer the American Community Surveys detailed, intrusive questions., [The plaintiffs] have in the past and will continue in the future to answer the ten-year Census, the suit states. He came by every hour starting at 6 Thursday. As such, any attempt by the government to encroach upon the citizenrys privacy rights or establish a system by which the populace can be targeted, tracked and singled out must be met with extreme caution. Whats next from our GOVERNMENT; the police saying your papers please? You want me to trust the census with information that is very private? In 2000 I threw the forms in the trash only to receive three visits at my door. Remember, it is Congress that is the creator of federal law, and the enumerator of penalties for violations of the law, not the U.S. Census Bureau. Today, the apparent supervisor came -- in his safety vest and green jeep like a public works person. Our government is abusive, tyrannical and murderous. Last night I found an envelope on my door from a census taker. I say "sorry sir no one here is available and you need to leave." It's hard to believe that a patriotic, high school social studies teacher, and law-abiding citizen, such as myself, could be compelled to suggest such civil disobedience--but here I am, and hear me loud. Don't be paranoid, it's only a few questions a lot of people already know about you anyway. Then I received the long form, ignored it and received another long form which I also ignored. What the hell was someone on Obama's team thinking about? I'm so glad I'm not alone. And when I'm asked what my address is, I'll respond with, "I pay taxes, look it up.". I'm contacting my congressman on this ACS issue today. Does this person have difficulty doing errands alone such as doctor's visits or shopping? Unfortunately, the guy probably already knew the answers to some of the questions. an American Patriot. People, what is so terrible about giving out the number of people who live in your household? Today's call is being recorded. Apparently the obnoxious butt head pounding repeatedly on my door at 10:00 AM (I work at night) was a census worker. Yet, he also said that the American Community Survey is continuing. Other than that, the sky is the limit. She said OK, left and then returned again within five minutes, saying it was her job to help me fill it out. The House GOP proposal would eliminate any increase in funds for 2020 planning, and it cuts nearly $500 million in total from the administration's request, including reductions for the American. Where did they get the data? We have received phone calls. I refused to tell them financial info or how much I pay on a power bill. I was out in my yard and she was yelling at me from a distance. The last time I looked, American's had the right to privacy. We already did our duty and answered the regular census. Thank Gosh, I documented every call and person I spoke with. the government was never constitutionally mandated to provide funds. I said I may have the second one, but discarded the first as a scam attempt. A: Federal law makes it mandatory to answer all questions on the ACS. If such a law exists, it should not exist, for it would be truly unconstitutional. As one responder put it, if you only want to know the number of people, then what does race have to do with it? I completed the regular census and destroyed the ACS. I too am going to do the same. She left. Isn't this trespassing? I ignored all of them. If you are a business person you could benefit from having accurate demographic information for the United States. OK then, so why waste my time asking questions? My recommendation is that secondary prevention be used with the possibility of tertiary prevention since he appears to be in the initial stages of exploring these behaviors. We will be contacting our U.S. senators, including one who is is in a very tight re-election campaign. In an age when the government has significant technological resources at its disposal to not only carry out warrantless surveillance on American citizens but also to harvest and mine that data for its own dubious purposes, whether it be crime-mapping or profiling based on race or religion, the potential for abuse is grave. I did not receive the additional questionnaire. Get class action lawsuit news sent to your inbox sign up for ClassAction.orgs free weekly newsletterhere. Happy evading! I thought Hitler was stopped. What you say is true. Lock Housing 16. And you just know that if I answer a survey about college, they will just send me another next year and keep tracking me. I am glad I am not myself the lunatic fringe. That's when I lost my patience and said "Look pal, you're here to count people right. As one post on this site said "bring it on.". This crap has been going on for almost a month now! The ability of our federal government to properly train temporary, and permanent, employees in PII and cyber security are not well represented in recent historical accounts. The ACS and Census Bureau have no legal standing to enforce the bogus laws that were passed to allow this survey. The government has no right to know this personal information and that she could leave. A month later I received the ACS questionnaire, and coincidentally(? I sent in the Census form (and that's all I'm required to provide). Miss. ACS has only been going since 2005. And it is supposed to be maintained private otherwise the census worker can go to prison or be fined or both. He asked if I was refusing to answer the survey. Let's see if she comes back for her shower. Way too much info requested (stuff I wouldn't tell my friends, let alone the government!!) The woman was carrying a clip board. 2019 American Community Survey (ACS) Census region x Metro/Non-metro 2020 CPS March Supplement Volunteerism 2021 American Trends Panel Annual Profile Survey/2019 CPS Volunteering & Civic Life Supplement . They left me a message to call them back and referred me to a case number. Plaintiffs declarations also do not support a finding they were subject to a genuine threat of imminent prosecution.. Jun 2022 - Present10 months. It's not their business. BUREAU OF JUSTICE STATISTICS. Washington and California residents have filed a proposed class action in which they object to being asked to participate in theAmerican Community Survey, which enquires about certain demographic details more specific than those central to the decennial Census. how Fourth amendment. Not about us - about adjoining property! It is not the same people each time - many different ones wondering around. He asked if I would consent to a phone survey and I could decline from answering any questions I thought were too personal or intrusive. Never give any phone numbers (tell them you don't have a phone and your employer forbids giving out the company cellular phone number). Because of a physical, mental, or emotional condition, does this person have serious difficulty concentrating, remembering, or making decisions? The worker harassed him and told him he had to answer the question or he would be in trouble with the police. In 1960, the gap was . I have a nice little digital camera that makes high-definition video. She said she must have my name, home address which I gave. I started to take the survey and the more I saw the more upset I got. He told the guy to just make something up. Wake up America! At what location did this person work last week? So I did not send it back. Bring it on ACB enumeratorsgo ahead, make my day!! Post Office Box 7482 Somewhere in the process we got some messages on the answering machine asking us to call their 800 number and refer to our "case number." Proud to be American but wondering where we will be as a nation in ten years? Explain that their responses will constitute consent to display the video online. I have therefore included both Article 1 section 2 of the US Constitution, and the US Supreme courts decisions in upholding the right to privacy. she wouldnt tell him who she was and kept insisting to come in. so i will protect myself and my privacy and never give in just for the fact its my right!!!!!!!!! If one of these goons shows up at your door you should immediately get out your camera phone or camcorder and put it right in their face and turn it on. With enough people, we can make a change. The reality appears to be that recipients can refuse to comply. Now there was the random insanely long, for one out of four, which I think is totally unfair. We will then see them online. this person got in the building somehow! Typically, the Census Bureau will telephone those who do not respond to the survey and may visit their homes to coerce the targets to respond. He was shocked and said it was required by law. At the moment, I am pretty furious with the current political band of thieves and third world dictators "wannabes" in power. I have now been visited six times already. On Monday, a worker left a letter at my door advising he would return again. Then you want to threaten with fines? Or are they? me. They have also threatened to fine or jail me. Sorry, but you are really just not important enough for them to worry about, certainly not as much as you are obviously worrying about them. Why am I in the unlucky 2.5%? As a result, Congressional districts will need to be redrawn. They have done a great job keeping businesses from behaving unethically, unsafely, and preventing them from attaining wealth at the cost of human life - whether from unfair wages and industrial practices or from the mass-physiological effects (brainwashing) of citizens from the huge-budget video/audio buy-buy-buy television addiction machine, or from the shortening of each human life and the human race entirely that is the natural result of reallocating, changing, destroying natural resources to produce worthless tidbits of crap (no matter how "convenient or interesting or entertaining it may seem in the end it is crap and it won't make you happy or more lovable or life more simple or whatever their marketing department's angle is -- it is just crap that is killing all of us and wasting all those workers' lives). I filled out the Census form this year and still, someone came to our door. Some of you who refuse to return your forms could possibly look at it from a different angle. Have to love how the government pays people to harass you. They insisted that the ACS did not receive it and wanted the information again. And to poster 201: the survey is much more intrusive than asking how many people live in your household. I asked my accountant about them and he recommended not to fill them out. I told that I had already fulfilled my Constitutional duties as a citizen with my mailed-in short form, and then told her the ACS and her harassment of me in my home is unconstitutional. Isn't this harassment? Anyway he proceed to stretch as much as he could so he could look into my living room. A March 2021 national survey from the Kaiser Family Foundation showed that of 1300 HCWs, 48% had not received the COVID-19 vaccine. Everyone tells me to throw it in the trash! This has been going on for almost three months and has caused tremendous stress in our household. This is not for every citizen, so we will not participate. Decennial Census. ), so did my 80 year old mother in another state. The American Community Survey is conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau. That seems to be the end of it, but only time will tell. Fine. Referring to financials, I told them to ask the IRS. I would like to recommend an alternative method of dealing with "census workers" who show up at your door to harass you for information. Now, do we all agree that harassing people is against the law??! Poster 235 is on to something: maybe my neighborhood can get a new school, a new hospital, and a new fire station. The harassment is ridiculous. The census asks for the number of people who "stayed at your house on April 1, 2010." Millions of dollars wasted! Good for Michele Bachmann for saying she wasn't filling this out. We are all empowered, so we need to get together to sue! FCPS will be seeking input on the progress of this work via a survey for parents/caregivers and community members, and a feedback opportunity for staff. How do I know these census folks are trustworthy? No need to respond to the intrusive survey. This summer I sold my house and tried to cancel my FEMA flood insurance. You have no idea. When he refused, the employee turned up twice unannounced at my apartment, demanding entry, and warning me of the fines I would face if I didn't cooperate.[35] Only after he filed a complaint with the Census Bureau did the agency realize he had actually completed the survey, thus ending its attempts to enter his home. The reason she looked at you in shock is because her husband didn't know she was there - she'd be fired on the spot and fined if she told her husband that. I am appalled at this whole thing and believe me when that survey taker arrives at my door again, she is going to get an ear full. Thank you, Poster 188. The virus was not developed as a biological weapon, and it probably wasn't genetically engineered. anon 77369: It is incorrect to say that you are required to respond. I read him the 4th Amendment which states, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." We have starving, homelessness, government corruption. From the American Community Survey and your tax dollars at work. No one will email you or be peeping at you from the census. Not to mention when the people came to my door I informed them that they were trespassing without proper identification and subject to arrest. I simply put, 'None of your business". But in this day and age, do you really believe by not taking the census that your personal information is more thoroughly protected? Has anyone ever been fined or penalized for not complying? I have received two forms, and have no intention of responding. I will not answer and/or return this form in spite of threats of fine, imprisonment or court appearance regardless of where the threat comes from. Today another call demanding to know my name and telling me I would be fined. If it is kept under the radar, then there are not enough people screaming to make a difference. I was hot and told her I have her number and I will call when I'm ready. So I stand up to them and say NO, you don't need my private information in order to serve me better! The 22-page lawsuit against U.S. Secretary of Commerce Gina Raimondo and Bureau of the Census Director Robert Santos says that unlike the normal ten-year Census, the yearly American Community Survey asks detailed and personal questions regarding a persons sexual orientation, gender identity, fertility history, marital status and divorce history. My 15 year old son was home at the time of the census worker stopping by. I tossed out both copies of the ACS long form. BTW my survey went into the guinea pig cage, it will come out the same it went in: crap. They came to my door at all hours. If it gets to the point where they actually come to your house, the "enumerator" is going to tell you it's too late to give your answers to the Survey in writing, and he'll insist (threaten) that you must tell him the personal details of your life while he types it into his laptop computer. With the census bureau losing over 600 laptops, and the current abuses of power, I see no reason to give out the information that they are asking. Not to mention the ethnic origin of any person on a questionnaire is profiling a house. They bring in all additional people running up monies needed for schools, social programs. As long as there are enough people who didn't fill out the census? First from a phone bot then yesterday a phone call from a real person. The public also plays a role in the erosion of our judiciary. Also available, The Rutherford Institute has developed a form letter that you may use in standing up against the governments attempt to force you to disclose personal information. Alternatively, you can always "nut up" when they call.

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