You don't like your job and you feel so miserable at it. Alcoholic beverages, illegal drugs, flammable liquids, explosives, and dangerous chemicals will not be returned. Some flight crew position names are derived from nautical terms and indicate a rank or command structure similar to that on ocean-going vessels, allowing for quick executive decision making during normal operations or emergency situations. Yeah - I have been strip searched after a hand swipe - just because I made the mistake of applying a hand moisturizer prior to going through screening.). Questions about the specifics of the program should be directed to your airline. A pilot with bad intentions could more easily overpower his crewmate with a weapon. endstream endobj 81 0 obj <>/Size 53/Type/XRef>>stream If any crew member wanted to cause harm they could. As a flight attendant KCM is a privilege most of us highly respect with air travel at an all time high to be sent thru regular screening will cause delays and many frustrations Thank you Jennifer for the info. While exact details remain to be seen, it would appear that airline pilots and flight attendants may have to consistently start going through airport security as of next year. Cops, firefighters and paramedics are first responders. For over two decades, Aircraft Operators have relied on NATACS for compliance services that meet the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and Transportation Security Administration (TSA) secured document and record management solutions. Your fellow drug smugglers "submitted backgrounds" top. However, off-duty crews should ALWAYS have to proceed thru the TSA security checkpoints like regular passengers. Completely agree. I would propose that any crew member intentionally engaging in this activity, once caught and verified, be terminated immediately and banned from any job in transport, prosecuted and given an exhorbitant fine, say $100,000. A:The KCM barcode card is used to expedite the crewmember verification process at the KCM access points. Crewmembers will no longer be permitted to manually enter their KCM data. Interesting viewpoint, except for those people who never have to pass through security could easily pass said product off to said pilot, attendant, or anyone with access to the plane storage cargo. TSOs are directed toadvisecrewmembers utilizing the KCM access points of the following procedures that arenotallowed. Seriously??? It's the easiest post. #3 is DEN - they do a secondary screening where they swipe the crew member's hands and test the swab in a machine. Blame it on the flight attendants, but oh the pilots wouldn't try to smuggle anything. Then to say the flight attendants can make a few runs and make their salary. If you look at the Number of incidents that are occurring, the majority, are all flight attendants. The transportation of such items is restricted and governed by the Civil Aviation Regulations. 0000006114 00000 n A flight attendant like a pilot, goes through random drug tests. This whole system is a mess now and its not only hurting crew members, but it will hurt passengers that have paid for TSA pre check to now have to wait for countless crews to go ahead of them. Airlines - KNOWN CREWMEMBER Airlines Pilots from the airlines below currently can participate in the Known Crewmember program. When you have unaccompanied baggage, two copies of written declaration forms are required to submit at the time of your entry, one of which will be returned to you with the seal of certification by a Customs officer. Right Eddie!?! Cry for us. I got secondary screening and they did it right there at the crew line (which they do in other countries) they just wipe your hands and suitcase and test it. As of publication, at least 922 crew members have been infected and at least 11 have died from COVID-19. CDCCheck is a web-based, touchless and digitized solution from DepartureCheck that complies with the documentation, attestation and record-keeping requirements of this order. Jose stop your dammm complaining. Standards - out the window. Visit the Consumer Product Safety Commission's website for more information on what items might be subject to a recall. Then go deal with management messaging and calling asking why your late to the gate because you got a random search and your flight is 3 terminals away. They will interfere with Clear, TSA Pre and just squeeze in again and create even more frustration, plus they dont pay for TSA checks but PAX do. There's too many crewmembers to have them all go through pre-check. Its not just flight attendants fault khaki pants and white sneakers boy. Since they have random and say catch someone doing something illegal make that individual go through the whole security process instead of punishing all of us? Airline pilot here. Can we also ban the pilots who brought their guns, or the ones bringing their wives wine? Celebrating 21 Years of AFA E-Lines and Debrief, Delta pilots approve new contract with 34% raises, Delta Pilots Approve Contract Raising Pay by 34%. I promise you that! 0000001314 00000 n The Known Crewmember (KCM) program is a joint initiative between Airlines for America (A4A) and the Air Line Pilots Association, Int'l (ALPA).KCM ties airline employee databases together in a seamless way and enables Transportation Security Administration (TSA) security officers to positively verify the identity and employment status of When all of the flights are getting delayed, people will be wishing KCM was back. In the meantime, random screenings through the program will continue to increase, to minimize the number of prohibited items being brought through security. crew member definition: 1. a member of a group of people who work together, especially on a ship: 2. a member of a group. The "Flight Attendants" column denotes airlines whose Flight Attendants are eligible to participate in the KCM program. It's the flight attendants. A non-expired government-issued photo ID; An aircraft operator-issued crewmember photo ID; and, A valid FAA Flight Attendant Certificate of Proficiency; or, A second non-expired government-issued photo ID. If a pilots wanted to do something bad they could, weve seen it with Malaysian airlines pilots taking that flight down. However, crewmembers on an extended leave of absence greater than 30 days, to include: disability, Family Medical Leave Act (FMLA), military deployment, voluntary leave of absence, furlough, suspension, termination, retirement, or other leave of absence must be suspended or removed from the KCM system. Im a F/A. On the other, my spouse is a F/A for Southwest. Either way, you're a crewmember so you'd better get ready for work, you have peanuts to distribute. since most smuggling takes place internationally, why doesnt immigration have people go through machines when entering the US? If your pass has a SSSS printed on it, you must undergo selectee screening at the passenger screening checkpoint. Thanks for what you do. Airport employees (not only flight crew) who drive & park in the employee lot are able to access the secure side of the airport without going through any security. I have witnessed them walk through checkpoints in droves with little more than a flash of a badge. The sense of entitlement from flight attendants and especially pilots is wild. 2023 PlanePeople. But it's ridiculous to get rid of a program that seems to be working fairly good so far. Its ridiculous they were added to the program. Interesting SMR? . crampons. I recently took a leave of absence from my airline, am I eligible to use KCM while on leave? Let the security ppl stick to what they gotta do and you pilots can Are you mad that they aren't letting people smuggle drugs thru security? Are you absolutely certain youd like to demean the ONLY people trained (and willing) on an aircraft at 40,000 ft. to do WHATEVER is necessary to save your sorry butt? A:A crewmember will be issued a KCM barcode card from their participating airline management staff. How do you call yourselves life savers when you routinely smuggle drugs which KILL people. In my opinion and observations, many of the violations that have As a result of having the FAA certificate, they are allowed to use the KCM lines. endstream endobj 62 0 obj <> endobj 63 0 obj <>stream (Note: Personal grooming items such as safety razors are allowed. Fine tuning of the program are very much in need but not just to our end, theirs (Government Screeners) too. Then there are the handful who do things they shouldn't do, that are making it a lot harder for everyone else. That is exactly what Flight Attendants do-every single day! I'm a crew member and lately the random checks have increased to the point of ridiculous. Are you worried that they might find the child porn that you regularly travel with now that you'll be going through security more often? We do not speed up the security process because it's busy. However, it is the responsibility of crew to pay these transportation costs. First as the article stated, pilots fly the airplane so and second, at most major airports ground personnel do not have to clear security at all, ever! Our frustration has absolutely nothing to do with entitlement. Crewmembers also may be directed to passenger-screening lanes whenever the KCM access point is not operational. (I hear at home about how the randoms seem to be more than the actual KCM good-to-gos.). I'm a flight attendant with 34 years seniority. Yes, I am furious. I think this KCM change may be a solution in search of a problem. Learn to comprehend what I'm saying. Is the little baby upset that he can't go thru KCM cause his coworkers got busted smuggling drugs? 0000003346 00000 n who cares..I pay TSA people out of my taxes to keep a 9-11 from happening again. Doesn't my ID matches the same face and picture of myself in their laptop database? The BCAS (Bureau of Civil Aviation Security) have come out with an advisory declaring locally made Power bank as prohibited item not permissible for carriage on person, hand baggage and Check-In baggage, and air cargo consignment. It's about protecting those who aren't from the delays and damage caused by the searches. Again, the TSA doesn't handle drug cases but if they do even random checks and find something that is illegal, they are going to refer it to local or federal police. Prohibited List: These items under most circumstances cannot be imported into the United States. What an absolute joke that anyone thinks there is any benefit at all to safety to screen pilots at TSA checkpoints. Crew are human. I have witnessed them walk through checkpoints in droves with little more than a flash of a badge. They should just permanently ban the violators from KCM. "Dream big and dare to fail." March 11, 1914 - June 26, 2020 (106 years old) Westchester, FL Services By Conboy-Westchester Funeral Home - Westchester George and Margaret Keller never suspected that the man terrorizing their city could be a member of their own family. For those passengers saying we are using a program that they are paying for. While you have no idea what its like going through security as many times as we do with our heavy bag, etc, as many times as we do, it is actually quite frustrating to walk up to kcm and be randomed 2/3 of the time. As a crew member it's disappointing to hear that KCM may be going away. This is going to cause As a flight attendant myself I see this as another power grab by the government entity tsa. I have also seen pilots try to bring animals or children through KCM with them. As a flight attendant myself I see this as another power grab by the government entity tsa. What do you make of the news of the TSA replacing the Known Crewmember Program with Expedited Crew Access? It does appear the supercilious author of this piece, pulled out his Medallion Card and showed it to the whole worldeven if to mostly blame impoverished flight attendants for being drug mules? The outdated machines are looking for glycerine - a primary agent in bombs of the past. Failure to follow the instruction provided by the TSO may result in action by the TSA, which may include a loss of KCM privileges for that crewmember. There are 24,000 flight attendants just at my airline. Q: Are temporary government issued photo IDs allowed? It's not at all fair to the crew members who do the right thing. I agree with you about flight attendants vs pilots. When you are selected for random, at Denver for instance, you are told to go to random screening. This story is incorrect. Hours? Prohibited Items Civil Enforcement Civil Enforcement Prohibited Items Planning ahead and packing properly can facilitate the screening process and ease your travel experience at the airport. A: No. It is suggested that you print your pass prior to entering the sterile area. Hold your fellow flight attendants responsible for their actions. Are allowed front-of-the-line access atTSA PreCheck lanes and standard passenger screening lanes. That is simply the way it works in every part of society. Let the security ppl stick to what they gotta do and you pilots can stick to being glorified bus drivers and you flight attendants can stick to being mobile vending machines. A: No. 30 days of history is only recorded for crewmembers with a mykcmsupport.com account I have been using KCM for a while, but just now created an account to see my history, why is there no history? "Y'all fucked around and found out". I think the KCM program is complete bullshit. Absolutely no verification of credentials or inspection of personal items. More egregious violations of the Code Federal Regulations (CFRs) could result in civil or criminal penalties. Its really an interesting take when you mention pilots dont need to be screened as much. Get mad at your (and my) own work group. I witnessed a pilot trying to bring his teenage son through KCM and getting irate because he was told he couldnt. "Y'all fucked around and found out". The second most common hard skill for a mcdonalds crew member is food orders appearing on 29.2% of resumes. Why not just revoke the flight attendants privileges and keep KCM for pilots? Packages large enough to smuggle a sufficient quantity of and when people are searched - which IS part of the security screening process - then there is a legitimate NECESSITY to escalate something that is illegally found to the appropriate law enforcement authorities. Say hello to people and ask them how they are doing. Look, your job could be replaced by a cardboard sign with a red arrow painted on it and a vending machine. So, according to you, FAs need to go through security because of prohibited items and drugs. A:Authorized crewmembers traveling with a printed boarding pass or seat request card are subject to the TSA Secure Flight (SF) vetting system the same as passengers. Are you EOD now? Dangerous Goods are also known as restricted articles, hazardous materials and dangerous cargo. Adding searches of gate personnel and aircrew adds around 5% to the number of searches. If you did, you wouldn't have made such an inept comment. 2023 KNOWN CREWMEMBER. ENR 5. Since you dont deal with people Im going to ignore the commentary on your lack of understanding why its necessary to go through an expedited process as a flight attendant. So, like with just about everything else good, a few ruin it for the majority. Other Airline Flight Attendants have told me that some of their colleagues have been terminated for violating KCM policies. A joke. Pilots have much more to lose. I guarantee if you're a flight attendant reading this you've said "oF cOuRsE I diD!" If the investigation results in regulatory findings, including a Warning Notice, loss of KCM privileges will continue for the period of time that TSA has determined is necessary. Work closely with your union or become a rep to improve work rules and pay at your airline to make respecting your job more appealing. AFA International | It is unfortunate that in 2023, the program may no longer exist for some. Sorry the rule applies if you don't like it then leave. As a 121 passenger pilot, this would push me to go fly cargo, it would be too much of a hassle to go through normal security. And as you put it yourself, FAs are 'impoverished'. Cabin Readiness Safety & Compliance Reminder! They are not the DEA and yet they end up finding ridiculous amounts of drugs usually because some idiot left a water bottle in the bag. Pilots were the ones most often caught with a firearm in their bag. If the penalties for breaking the rules were severe and immediate, I believe the problem would be quelled. In your feeble mind, do you really think the TSA guy sitting there makes the rules? Every actual crew member reading this comment section knows you made that up. Waiters, food services and others, including TSA workers who make minimum wage and have a thankless job, not so much. Q:Can a crewmember individually join KCM if their airline does not participate in the program? Without them, you're just an individual sitting in the gate area, getting angrier because your flight is delayed because the flight attendants are stuck in security? I get to see both sides of this equation. It has been a shit-show forever at many airports (I'll site a few problem locations: EWR is #1- their KCM NEVER WORKS, forcing Crew to the regular (oh I'm sorry) - Prohibited items: Firearms & Ammunition, including realistic replicas. They are picked up and dropped off from the ramp. And then throwing a hissy fit when they are not allowed to do what they already know 100% they are not allowed to do? This is going to cause more time people wait in line and people already hate it when crew members arrive late to the aircraft. If they increased the requirements - say you have to have a 2 year degree -- an EMT license, etc. Secondly, its rather disturbing that TSA agents have very little oversight in regards to entering secure areas with bags, purses, etc. Just give us a dedicated crew only lane. FAA MIS REPORTS DUE MARCH 15, 2023 - click, FAA PILOT RECORDS DATABASE DEADLINES - click, Flight School Security Awareness Training, Twelve-Five Standard Security Program (TFSSP), Private Charter Standard Security Program (PCSSP), Flight Training Security Program (FTSP) - formerly AFSP, DCA Access Standard Security Program (DASSP), Full All-Cargo Aircraft Operator Standard Security Program (FACAOSSP), Pilot Records Improvement Act (PRIA) of 1996. International Jet Aviation Services, Inc. Springfield Aircraft Charter and Sales Inc. Airbrock Management and Charter Services Inc. REAL ID enforcement deadline extended to 2025, IMPORTANT: Regulatory Anti-Drug & Alcohol Program Reminder. Flights can board with/without pilots..however, a flight cannot board without the flight attendants. We do get front of the line access. 0000003889 00000 n Flight attendants do not have as much to loose as a pilot. It would make better sense to just have a baggage scanner at each KCM checkpoint but eliminate the need to X-ray scan our bodies. I'm also a flight attendant and I don't know about that since it looks like you're happy with arriving an extra couple hours even before your report time at the gate. Cleaners/agents/food vendors/cleaning crews/maintenance. The current iteration of the KCM program has been around since 2011. There is no rolling back what the TSA currently does - like it or not. There's always going to be a few who thwart the rules and get busted. The SF system randomly selects individuals to undergo selectee screening and will identify the printed boarding pass or seat request card with a SSSS. Sadly people will always try and take advantage of a situation. Hair curlers containing hydrocarbon gas, up to one (1) per passenger or crew member, provided that the safety cover is securely fitted over the heating element. 4.1.2. As a 30 year career airline pilot, I have a vested interest in protecting my career, so do all of the other pilots I fly with taking security seriously. That is actually the reason why some of us Flight attendant give attitude when random, not for the process itself but for the attitude of lots of like you who you can tell from far that don't care about either passenger of Flights. For information about the Known Crewmember program, please contact us at:info@knowncrewmember.org. Most crew have known for YEARS NOW that the TSA has done a piss-poor job of screening. Crew Member responsibilities include assisting customers as needed, answering questions, and completing daily tasks. At least flight attendants have to meet some kind of standards and have a lot to lose. You were given a privilege and exploited it. . There are multiple reports of pilots being busted with weapons. The crew may have to deal with several emergencies such as cabin fires or first aid situations. This could help to discourage any would-be smugglers. Zero??? Done. Agree that the problem stems from flight attendants being able to use this as well as pilots. 2023 KNOWN CREWMEMBER. They are "consensual" in name only, and that bending of the usual prohibition of unwarranted search is justified only because their primary purpose is to stop terrorists from taking weapons onto planes. {uyn1j~_L;t26mHMSY%?kbS&eGo?3/_fbd^`Gv`!=XYX+\GGGGGGEES%%%%%%y;`-^Sc;_y^1}iF3

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