You know, turning ammo into noise kind of use. Also, the very aged sporter stock design doesnt lend itself well to shooting long rangeespecially in such a light rifle. Will be used mostly for white tail and hogs in Texas. The need for fast follow up shots, I know with practice a bolt action is fast, but I also dont want to break my right hand grip on the gun and trigger. Instead of light gun oil, I wouldwipe gun with a rig rag. The ammo is inexpensive and widely available, the recoil in manageable for most shooters, and the cartridge is unquestionably capable of taking elk cleanly. when buying a boltaction rifle to be used for hunting,do you prefer a safety that locks the bolt down,or one that allows you to work the action.I prefer the type that locks the bolt. Combing the interwebs just now I see other reviews reporting groups from 0.40 to 2 MOA depending on caliber and ammunition brand/load. Style and Appearance * * * * How about a Bergara Wilderness Ridge in 7 mag? I had a question on my first rifle purchase. What r your thought for a high end choice up to around the 3k range? Jim. Trigger pull is most critical for me. Im going to let it cure for a day or so before testing it, if I still have an issue with slippage or it effects accuracy, I will switch out for new rings. The only downsides I have read of it is its screw-on bolt-knob and the fact that you may need a few more tools to disassemble the rifle. I would love to get your take or even see a review on it. Just doing a bit of research on the Momentum because the local gun store has a bunch on sale. Hold on to it. Why I Picked These Three Rifles Over the Competition. Mr. Harmer, I really appreciate your reviews on the Sig Cross and Waypoint. Never bother with a Winchester M70, because I thought it was old fashion. Wish I discovered your content sooner and thankful for all your hard work. It would also handle bigger calibers MUCH better than the Cross. I had settled on this for my next rifle based on the Weatherguard coating, price and MOA accuracy guarantee but now it seems we may never see them. However, as Ive owned the Sig Cross for almost a year now, Im surprised by how frequently its the gun I reach for in the safe. Great deal. Thanks. Whats your opinion one the tikka t3x upr vs the waypoint 2020? It was raffled, gave winner 450 hoping to thrd and add brake but barrel too thin. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Looking for a good review of it after months of no Tikkas available locally in 308. Stock: A carbon version of Bergaras excellent HMR stock. It doesnt handle recoil well because of the stock design. 5. Shut up Vlad. Would I buy this rifle? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The best part of learning how much I love hunting was how little I first put in. Ive got an old 700 that is a beautiful gun and was a great deal but Im taking the plastic stock Savage up in the tree this fall. In the video below, I review the Fierce Rogue and show what I like/dislike about the Fierce Rogue. Why would anyone purchase a rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor when 7mm-08 will do everything the 6.5 can but with a bigger bullet, flatter trajectory, and comparable wind drift at typical hunting ranges? I have been taking in everyone of ur vids I can find and sincerely appreciate your work and am interested in your take on the Seekins product? There lies my hole and question to you. One issue that has come up with all three of their guns is having to check and tighten the front and rear action assembly screws. Heres a link to that rifle in .30-06. Bergara B14 Hunter? Have you ever tested any Franchi hunting rifles? Im sure the leupold would be better, but for a 700 dollar difference, Ill see how I like the Burris. Both good guns, I would worry about Franchi suddenly stopping production of this rifle and parts availability going to zero. Hey Jim I recently found your stuff and have been doing a deep dive. The 300 win mag barrel twist is a little slow, but if you arent going to handload, it should shoot up the 200 grain bullets in factory Ammo just fine. Would you take the Waypoint over the Seekins? The Momentum Elite comes with a detachable box-type magazine that holds three or four cartridges (depending on the caliber) for fast, safe and easy loading and unloading. I expect to spend a few thousand or more to get what would meet my needs. Great review. On the flip side, a 60-degree throw is often not always, but usually stiffer, and this was the case here. love the mauser style trigger guard/magazine. In your opinion, is the Fierce worth the extra you pay or does the Springfield give you more value for the money you spend. Also, it works great if you quickly manhandle the action. Thank you for your time. Anyway, sorry but I dont have much experience with it. My main criteria is staying sub 6 lbs if I can for the rifle only and sub moa guarantee. Just how it shot when the time came. Dumb! The Tikka T3x has a single-column detachable clip magazine made from a strong fiberglass-reinforced composition. unloaded and 46.7 . If youre patient and know what youre doing. As i get older i am now back to 6,555 and 8x57IS and 308win when it come to calibers but that is more related to the hunting i do than the rifles .Love your tube videos and the fact that you have your own opinions an are not afraid to tell everyone about them. I was all ready to order the Fierce but I see your post above and now I am on the fence. I was looking at the Tikka for a while but Im not crazy about the slower twist in .30-06. Maybe not, but I have been caught in down pores and all the morons that were with me came back to the car with rust on their guns but not me. The SIG Cross would be a best second choice. If youre into Italian and youre into affordable, but you still want some Ferrari performance at the Fiat price, Franchis Momentum delivers the goods. I went with the CVA simply for that reason. Their ammo is INSANELY expensive, so I wouldnt invest in a Weatherby chambering. After reviewing and owning over 40 bolt-action hunting rifles, here are are the best of the best. I reload, so Ive been able to work on the load. Its just so short, light, and accurate. So if you are shooting 300 win mag, will it throw inaccurate shots on the 3rd shot (or even the 2nd)? Dumped lots of Deer, Black Bear and Moose with it. Length of Pull: 14 inches (adjustable with spacers) Newer is not always better. I found barrel engraved with 6.5 Creedmore and read manual before use Its not for me. I have found the majority of shooters have a herd mentality and always believe that the latest is the greatest. Premium recoil pad, pic rail, fluted barrel, muzzle breakMOA guaranteed accuracy like the Tikka. BarrelLength: 22 inches It is so fun to shoot and is extremely accurate! NO, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control_in_Italy, F Franchi, and Baretta and their ilk. Or is the lighter, cheaper, better looking cva more applicable? Really, the only thing that keeps me from owning more of them is that I can rarely find them in the chamberings I want. Most of the great rifles youve taken time to make us salivate for do not make left handed models. guns.com Buy. I have played with many of the rifles you have. They come in the same price bracket as Tikka rifles but from what I have read, unlike the popular T3X rifles, Sauer 100 rifles I dont know if wood and metal rifles are extinct but it looks that way in Scheels. Thanks. If you were to build a rifle what action would you use. An innovative modern design with folding buttstock, pistol grip. Affordable? I have purchased about 12 different rifles in the sub-$500 price point over the last 3 years to test out for this review. Watch my review here. Watch my full review of the Springfield 2020 Waypoint. Like, sure. My main gun is a Tikka T3 in 30-06. Beater rifles go until they cant. And like most of the rest of the world for that matter. Unless you spend 4-5 G on a custom built left handed. Any suggestions would be appreciated. It truly needs to be able to handle rough handling. Ive got a line on a used Seekins Havak Element in 6.5 PRC. So with 6.5CM its sure to take the deers soul. First available in 1936 for Petes sake. Tikka T3X Compact Bolt-Action Rifle - Best .308 Lightweight Hunting Rifle. I know its very high end but with a replaced hip and knee, I want anchored shots and believe that cartridge is a slight upgrade on the venerable 300WM. The only competitor would be a full custom on the amazing MDT HNT 26 chassis. Franchi talks up the ergonomics of the Momentum big time on their website. Its become a turn off. I dont think any mauser action rifles allow you to drop around in because of the claw extractor. I would really like one in one of the 7mm flavors. Sure, its the same action and barrel, but its dressed up completely differently, and I think it changes the gun significantly. some of us realize we would be charged a certain premium. $699.00. I appreciate your knowledge and insight. Ill use my customized REM 700 in 300 win mag for elk. Bergara is intriguing, but I cant understand why its heavier. Cheers. Thank you! It is aggravating that the stock hugs the barrel on one side, but it doesnt contact on mine. Can't see enough difference to make a difference. Even though Im happy with my decision, the Ultralite might have been the better way to go. What is your opinion on this gun? Vlad I have no idea who you are but you sure do make a lot of noise and a lot less sense. If you just go in the store, they almost never seem to have any good chambering options. The Tikka T3 features a standard box 3 round magazine but certain models come with a 4 round magazine. My initial impression is that it is a pretty standard budget bolt gun. The new Elite versions now feature detachable box magazines, Cerakote metal finishes and stocks wearing popular camo patterns. Awesome at this price range. But its a great all around gun out to 450 when most hunters can only shoot 250, if that. A very solid four stars here for the Franchi Momentum bolt-action rifle. And all the great work you do! Notify me of follow-up comments by email. I absolutely love the 2020 waypoint! The scope I bought is a Sea Adler, 3x9x40. Gear up as your favorite Delsin Rowe Vest. Really enjoy your advice and reviews on guns and equipment, I appreciate your opinions. There is a nice Bavarian Sako but theres isnt much data on accuracy on the range with a scope. My 2 favorite calibers are 270( I have 6 of them) and 300H&H ( one pre 64 Winchester Model 70 and one Cooper). My experience as well Tim! Jim, Quality control issues, Im about to send it BACK in for a 2nd time for them to figure out why its damn near impossible to open or close the bolt after a few shots. That one is on my radar and Id love to hear your thoughts on it. Hi Jim, I love your reviews and think you are the best reviewer I have come across. FRUSTRATING. Jim, after watching the review of your Rival I wanted you to know I had the same problems with mine. Like I said not sure what you tested it in, but I just wanted to let you know. Curious to hear your thoughts/experience with it. What? I was down to the Ultralite or the Savage High Country and went with the High Country because of this. Not many have been around since they are new this year. The internal box magazine holds four rounds. These areas are designed to provide purchase and ergonomic grip options for different shooting positions and styles, such as the five seen above. So, too, will the rifles 2-position safety allow you to load and unload safely. I wanted to get into deer/large game hunting while trying to stick with one gun for all animals (deer to elk) and I live in northeast South Dakota. The muzzle break sends recoil back into the rifle which breaks cheap scopes . Bergara seems to have just come out with a Walnut stock maybe as a result of one of you comparing their stocks to garage floors??? Its the classic , its The One , its stood the test of time , its been around longer than the rest and will still be here long after these other rifles have fallen out of fashion. I found accuracy to be okay but not great, feeding was okay but not great, and the design was usable, but not really modern. Watch my review of the MPR here. I actually ordered a CVA cascade first, in .308, but changed my mind and returned it and bought the Franchi. Its a crisp, clean, single-stage trigger with no slack or take-up and a nice break. I like the Bergara B-14 ridge. Then I bought an Alaskan 338 Win Mag Laminate in Stainless. Interested in loading this cartridge. Hunting rifles per say but not many of the new techno rifles. Jim- Have you tested/reviewed any of the Sauer 100 rifles? Id probably go with the Weatherby, but both guns will be very accurate. Jim, between the Savage 110 Ultralight and the Weatherby Mark V which would you pick for accuracy? If you had a choice between XBolt Pro & Dako finnlight 85 in 300wm what one would you choose. Made in Italy? Question about the vanguard vs the bergara. I recently purchased the Momentum Elite in the 6.5 creedmoor and respectfully think an honourable mention for the under $1000 would be appropriate. Along with it is 2-position safety that . All things equal Fastest/flattest 6.5 using 143 gun ELD-X bullets. I\m relatively new to the channel & website, and it has quickly become a favorite of mine. Im looking for a great elk rifle/big game in left handed. Are you still doing a full review on that caliber? It just does everything reasonably well. what makes it a Bergara? Customization * * * * Jim, I love that Fierce Reaper but would probably have to sell another nice gun to get it and not sure I quite want to do that. XPR has a great barrel (mine was very accurate), free floated; pretty smooth bolt/action for price; same trigger as M70; permacote is durable; stock is better than most in price range. Hard to go wrong with it for online prices often below $400. Its like saying 300 Blackout isnt as effective as 300 WinMag. Im familiar with it, but havent done an official review. What matters is on the paper for 550 dollars and a threaded barrel to boot. Ruger Americans are fantastic. Hes not huge. Id like to know how the Sandman suppressor performed. Highly recommended. One might think that in this price range, youd have a multitude of choices, but in my opinion, there are really only three hunting rifles Id consider. HOWEVER, since recording that review Ive also had the opportunity to hunt a good bit. Its a great rifle for heavier cartridges. John did tell me that they are currently working on a fix for the extractor problem. Have you reviewed the werkman? I was really looking at the Waypoint before so would you recommend that now or another? Overall, the rifle is kinda heavy so itd be nice to reduce recoil a bit. Try that some time with a modern made low budget piece of shit. Very impressed. You havent included Winchester in your reviews. I also like the Fierce Reaper and the Sako S20 for heavy-recoiling cartridges. Can you, or have you already, done a review on the Bergara Premier Divide ? It tames the recoil of this 6.6-pound rifle extremely well. The trouble Im having wracking my brain over is caliber. Thats a nice collection. Good luck wearing one out with your old ass, you could have the best or worst and it wouldnt matter since its seeing all of a day of use once a season. Weatherby Mark V Weatherby makes a fantastic rifle. As of now its my most accurate and favorite rifle. Its like comparing a Kia against a BMW. Keep up the good work of educating shooters in a neutral way. It uses the same barrel as the more expensive Bergara B14 rifles, because they are both owned by the same parent company and come out of the same factories in Spain. Full Details. With a typical retail price of $549, the Franchi Momentum is a lot of Italian hunting rifle for not a lot of cash. It looks to be right @ the very top of weight class Id like, but with the adjustable stock,shape,look & Carbon Barrel, seems to be right in the wheelhouse of what Id like for my larger caliber (wish they had it in .300 PRC) rifle. Keep up the great work. Never shot 6.5 but all I hear are good things whats your opinion. November 29, 2018 By Steve Gash. And based on my limited sample size, this budget rifle seems to prefer budget ammo. I just bought a Savage Axis II XP in 308 after much research and debate amongst my hunting partners. It is a three lug 60 deg. You sound like the new guy that is 25 and has 150 years experience. I havent heard you talk much about the Seekins rifles, any thoughts on them? Does that make sense from what I\ve mentioned? And the thought of upgrades on a new rifle seems stupid to me. Some day Ill give one a more fair look. Franchi Momentum .350 Legend Threaded 24" Bbl FDE BA Rifle 41562. Hey Jim, big fan of your Youtube channel and I always enjoy watching/reading your content. But the chassis is the killer for me. You mention it just once in this string but dont come back to it at all. Is it like the other cheap stocks you mentioned In fact, I frequently find myself out shooting with a Sig Cross even when I have much more expensive guns that I could be choosing. Ive been pouring over your channels videos, and a lot of Ron Spomers content (as well as a few others for the past months). Fierce is about $400 more and almost a pound heavier. I wanted to get a Bolt Action rifle for hunting and also had always wanted an AR style rifle too. I decided to go a different direction by changing out the barrel for a 20 inch Proof. Hi Jim, Any information is greatly appreciated. Ive been a little coy about recommending one specific rifle in this price range because its a tight race. ITs one of hte most versatile calibers since you can load down to 125 gr bullets and turn it into a .243 in recoil to train kids with a light load. Luckily I was at a store on vacation that let me handle both. I have monkey arms so a new stock is in the future for whatever rifle I choose another reason Im trying to keep the price down. I would like something under 6# for $2000 or less with a carbon wrapped barrel. Sorry youtube is being such a pain in the ass to you as well. it just feels right. On the range, the Franchi Momentum Elite Varmint is a bit larger and heavier compared to some of the thinner and shorter barreled Momentum rifles, coming in at 9 lbs., 6.4 ozs. Get one , in 30-06 for the purest experience , and youll be convinced ! I am about ready to purchase the Springfield Waypoint 2020 in 6.5 prc then, i see the Proof Elevation MTR is offered in a 7prc, as is the Rival in a 7prc A very accurate danish produced rifle. Watch my review here. Next. Yes its more than that modern piece of shit for $300 but I have found other used Mauser sporters including commercially made ones in the $300 dollar range not once but many , many times. (The extra mags are also only like $20 which is nice, too.) I think I will try to pick one up next week, in either a .308 or .300. Thank you and keep up the great job! Hi and not hold up good with the recoil? So, if those ones should be avoided, what rifles SHOULD hunters consider? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Remember the cheap skates that passed up Colt Pythons when they were only $260 bucks and now are 10 times that. No. Actually, I like it a lot. Very accurate, handles recoil well, and easily in your price point with room to spare. This gun is for actually hunting in adverse conditions and not worrying about scratching it or damage. Christensen Ridgeline So many people have asked me to review one, and I just cant justify spending $2,000 on one because Ive heard so many reports of inconsistent manufacturing quality. Its short, compact, lightweight, sinfully accurate with my handloads, feeds 100%, and adjustable so it fits me perfectly. You mentioned it once but I cant find a video where you review it? have since restocked it with a B&C M40, and will use it for long range targets and steel. The Vanguard does come in quite a few cartridges, but retail stores will only give them so many spots on the shelves, and since Weatherby is always pushing its own cartridges, its common to not find the chambering youre looking for without special ordering it. I believe the momentum rifle could easily stack up against the models outlined in the under $500 category. I understood going into it that it was a boutique and emotionally motivated cartridge choice, but the performance and build quality is excellent. Just easier to carry in hand, never a sling. What about the Winchester Model 70? You mentioned the seekins havoc, but not in detail. Browning X-Bolt Pro I like the X-Bolt Pro. With a century and a half of firearms manufacturing behind it, Italy's Franchi has unveiled its first-ever centrefire hunting rifle, the Momentum. Fun to read through this after watching all the vids. Manual dont talk about 6.5 Creedmore ! I know they are two different price points, but Id love to see a side by side comparison between the 2020 Waypoint and the Savage 110 Ultra Lite. There really isnt much to complain about on a Bergara B-14. I appreciate the blunt honesty. Regardless, they should have went with a flush mount magazine like the Axis which, if I may add sells new for a third of the Momentums MSRP in my part of the world. More velocity with the heavier bullets which by the way do not work so well in the 6.5 Creedmore. I really wanted a 6.5 PRC for my first hunting rifle but with the ammo limitations Im probably going to get a 6.5 Creedmore instead. Solid brass bullet ,which I really like. In this price range, manufacturers use very loose tolerances and have very poor quality control, so Im careful what I recommend. Barrett, AI, etc. It feels almost as rigid as concrete, and thats a good thing. Your email address will not be published. Its incredibly well built. Have you had a chance to look over or review the Savage Impulse? So how do you really feel? $699.00. Great choice in a gun. Im down to the Savage 110 Ultralite and the Christensen Ridgeline. I was pretty confident in the 110 Ultralight that I found locally for a hair under $1000 but your updates here are making me rethink that. Yeah, the Reaper is pretty awesome. Bought a vanguard series 2 in 270cant wait to shoot it put a leupold 3x9x50 ..I have 1400.00 in it first expensive gun Ive ever owned.wish me luck, The rifle you are selling that is under $350 thats quiet what caliber is it and who makes it need more information please thank you. You never mentioned. I did achieve the box numbers through hand loading and Magpro powder for the 170 Bergers and Staball 6.5 for the 129 lrx. The stock is cheesy feeling, but nicely shaped and rigid. Yes your quite right on that and its sad that the majority of hunters never bother to educate themselves in regards to the plethora of 6.5 mm cartridges invented over the years. Probably going to be the Waypoint. I recall in a vid you talked about hunting with Mosin Nagans, the Russian 30.06! Any thoughts. There are very few reviews and almost zero information about how the Howa carbon shoots. This is Franchis first rifle and they want into the market place are keeping the price low. Fantastic. stock not sticky yet? Releasing the floor plate of the 4-round, internal magazine is accomplished via a lever inside the front of the trigger guard. Price points on the ammo dont put them too far apart when searching on Ammoseek, usually within 5 bucks a box depending upon brand. Helping the Franchi Momentum turn in great groups well, helping the shooter do his or her part better is a wonderful factory trigger. Went on my first hunt (elk) this October. Have you or will you be doing a video on Franchi hunting rifles. Push it flush with the inside of the trigger guard, and . Its a great suppressor. Have to admit I love Henrys, so am trying to take my heart out of the decision with wisdom from someone more experienced like you. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. I do have a question that I hope you will address. Christensen needs to improve its quality control in my opinion. Boy, so many good 7 mags. Since recording the review of the Sig Cross, my copy of the gun did develop the issue with the safety where it doesnt quite go to the correct position. In case anyone is wondering and didnt click the link, its available in 6.5Creedmore. Jim Harmer is a host of the Backfire Youtube channel. Ha! Fancy for an affordable rifle, the Franchi Momentum sports a one-piece, fluted bolt. I am going to use the rifle for mainly whitetail deer hunting in Wisconsin but I occasionally like once every 5-10 years go out west and hunt pronghorn or elk and have recently tried to hunt moose in Alaska. How us that helping? FRANCHI MOMENTUM ELITE 6.5 CREEDMOOR 24" 3RD BOLT RIFLE - REALTREE EXCAPE / BURNT BRONZE True Price: $ 813.69. Hello Jim, great article. Keep up the great work. So small and packable, and Im getting incredible accuracy out of it. Overall * * * * If you want an accurate rifle with a threaded barrel and a decent trigger, it doesnt seem like you can go wrong with this one for under $500. Same for Austria and Glock. If a person is willing to invest the money; would you recommend the reaper above all else for a do it all hunting rifle? hey jim i have a 2022 ridgeline in 308 it shoots 1/4 to 1/2 moa looked a long time and read many bad reviews butt talked to many people and am very happy with mine thanks. JavaScript is disabled. In regards to the Howa 1500 I got one in 300 PRC, it had a Houge stock, I installed a Bell & Carlson, put a Konos M30 on top and got a group the size of a 50 cent piece at a 100 yards. I have been considering the Winchester xpr spotter (walnut stock) in 308 Win.

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